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DuKeMaN 239 Posts (71 )
1 years 0 month(s) ago - hide

I just love how everyone the Vikings draft players and sit them everyone starts calling them busts. Zimmer loves to sit rookies and will always allow a veteran to play over a raw rookie. That's why I'm confused on the WR and CB picks. Diggs is playing really good Theilen has emerged and then you still have Johnson Treadwell and Wright all for the 3rd slot. Then at CB you have Rhodes locked in at one then Waynes developing under Newman and Alexander developing under Munerlynn.

In order of need: OL RB S LB DT

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Cle-fan1975 (Anonymous Poster)
1 years 0 month(s) ago - hide

The Browns don't draft a qb at all after 4 rounds?  Invest 3 picks on secondary?  This seems illogical to me.  I really don't see this happening.  While I agree the secondary was predictably terrible and probably a toss up for weakest crew on the team (with o-line the other), they are quite young, especially in the secondary, and if I'm not mistaken, the existing staff were the folks that put this secondary together.  

I definitely hopeople this isn't how it goes down.  

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DuKeMaN 239 Posts (71 )
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@Cle-fan1975 I don't see them drafting a QB outside of the first two rounds. They already picked Kessler last year and have a reliableish veteran in McCown and RG3 who they are seeing if has anything left in the tank. I don't see this new regime going for another QB to waste their picks on one position while the whole team has holes to be filled. Ideally I would love to see the Browns trade down and still lank Allen giving them a replica of a Aaron Donald type of player for Greg Williams and still landing them a couple more picks. But the attention to the DBs is not too much. They were terrible all of last year. But I think two would be good enough until the last two rounds if they can land a guy they like. I'd say Allen Lattimore Maye and two offensive lineman would be a good plan. After that I might find another safety with that last pick to grow under Tramon Williams or a linebacker or another DL
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jalexjsmithj (Anonymous Poster)
1 years 2 month(s) ago - hide
I hate the Trade.
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DuKeMaN 239 Posts (71 )
1 years 2 month(s) ago - hide
@jalexjsmithj all of the trades or just one and for which team?
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DuKeMaN 239 Posts (71 )
1 years 3 month(s) ago - hide
Still confused on the Bengals pick. Why another CB after last year. They literally just a CB in round one the year before. Why not actually address a need. By this point in the draft I see talented players at DL CB and WR and CB would be my last option
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Jags (Anonymous Poster)
1 years 3 month(s) ago - hide

You obviously don't pay attention to the jags.. we don't need d line help.. Dante Fowler and Yannick Ngakoue on the edge (first year for both) Malik Jackson at DT (top 10 in the league) with Roy Miller at nose (top five).. 

Our needs: strong safety,possible CB depending on if we resign prince amukamura,  left guard and tackle..

And how do you not have quincy Wilson cb from Florida in the top 15?? He is better than teez tabor!! We got the two best CB in college.. and Quincy is out playing Tabor!!

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DuKeMaN 239 Posts (71 )
1 years 3 month(s) ago - hide
@Jags I didn't say Tackle was a big need but I wouldn't mind seeing one or two later as depth moves. But BPA is always the key to making a winning team is getting the best players available not position needs. I think by the end of the season it will Garrett Allen and Peppers as my top 3 talents so to pass up on Allen would be atrocious. The Jags fail to get to the QB and that's why i would pick Allen over Peppers but would still gladly take Peppers if Allen wasn't there. Btw just a curious move but I would also love to see the Jags switch to a 3-4 if they land Allen and choose to go in a different direction at HC
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Jags (Anonymous Poster)
1 years 3 month(s) ago - hide

You obviously don't pay attention to the jags.. we don't need d line help.. Dante Fowler and Yannick Ngakoue on the edge (first year for both) Malik Jackson at DT (top 10 in the league) with Roy Miller at nose (top five).. 

Our needs: strong safety,possible CB depending on if we resign prince amukamura,  left guard and tackle..

And how do you not have quincy Wilson cb from Florida in the top 15?? He is better than teez tabor!! We got the two best CB in college.. and Quincy is out playing Tabor!!

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DuKeMaN 239 Posts (71 )
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@Jags  Roy Miller is not a top 5 NT. Yes NT is definitely not the biggest need but to pass up on a HUGE talent like Allen would be stupid. Pair him up with Jackson Fowler and Yannick would make this front 7 a darn good one. Plus i would avoid Tackle. Beachum is there already with Parnell and his contract on the other side. Parnell is playing solid. He gets the job done. But for this team to take a step they need to add the best talent period not just a big need. They smartly added the talent last year and it would be disappointing if they went the opposite direction this year
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DuKeMaN (Anonymous Poster)
1 years 3 month(s) ago - hide
I'm tired of hearing that the Browns are kicking themselves in the butt comment. Yes Wentz is playing amazing and playing great all-around. I thought he should of been the #1 Pick in the draft but that's not the point. The Browns continuesly drafts QBs to be the future without a supporting staff to allow him to succeed and not to struggle and become a RG3. Look at the eagles. They have a great setup waiting for a QB to finish the piece. It was still a great move by both sides. But Wentz could hit the famous rookie wall in year 2 so stop with the comment. And my other big disagreement is the Bengals comment. They didn't Olsen out on Nelson they let him go because they like their current safeties. I still see their biggest needs at DE and WR. Yes they have Boyd but he's been off to a slow start amen Lafel isn't the answer. But like you said in round 2 Johnson hasn't been cutting it across Dunlap and they have always liked depth at DL. Otherwise I don't completely disagree with anything else
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DuKeMaN 239 Posts (71 )
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@DuKeMaN They didn't lose out on Nelson* and Lafel isn't the answer*
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DuKeMaN 239 Posts (71 )
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I'm tired of hearing that the Browns are kicking themselves in the butt comment. Yes Wentz is playing amazing and playing great all-around. I thought he should of been the #1 Pick in the draft but that's not the point. The Browns continuesly drafts QBs to be the future without a supporting staff to allow him to succeed and not to struggle and become a RG3. Look at the eagles. They have a great setup waiting for a QB to finish the piece. It was still a great move by both sides. But Wentz could hit the famous rookie wall in year 2 so stop with the comment. And my other big disagreement is the Bengals comment. They didn't Olsen out on Nelson they let him go because they like their current safeties. I still see their biggest needs at DE and WR. Yes they have Boyd but he's been off to a slow start amen Lafel isn't the answer. But like you said in round 2 Johnson hasn't been cutting it across Dunlap and they have always liked depth at DL. Otherwise I don't completely disagree with anything else
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Phaces (Anonymous Poster)
1 years 9 month(s) ago - hide
I dont understand the Ravens picks at all. Not addressing the O-line in the first 2 rounds but giving them 2 DL players when they are solid there? And a trade with the Bengals? Nobody wants to help out a division rival. Can't complain much about the rest of the draft though. 
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DuKeMaN 239 Posts (71 )
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@Phaces don't understand? Ravens had Suggs go down. Suggs and Dumerville towards end of their career. They love to draft pass rushers. Then they also fix their CB issue. Yes they could probably use another T but Monroe can handle himself and John isn't a bad player. So returning their defense to what it was known for and what won them championships would be a smart choice
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DuKeMaN 239 Posts (71 )
1 years 9 month(s) ago - hide
Chargers pass up Tunsil? Jags pick Tunsil. You were talking about how they let him walk? Well that was mainly because they don't have the room for him. The Jags aren't going to draft a T to have a 3 man battle for ONE position. No way they'd pass up Myles Jack if he fell to them
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