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Here is the problem with Peppers and why the steelers should avoid him, he is too small to play linebacker and hasn't displayed the cover skills to play defensive back. Where do you play him?
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Matt (Anonymous Poster)

What were the Raiders supposed to do?  Walt, their stadium is older than you and I combined.  There was no future there.

It sucks for the fans, myself included because I HATE everything Las Vegas is about, but trying to get Oakland to help build a stadium has basically been going on for three decades now.  Enough is enough.

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Jags M8 (Anonymous Poster)
If the top three linemen are taken with the first three picks I still believe it would be wise to trade back. The Jags tend to swing and miss with these picks and it would be a better long term advantage to stock up on some young offensive linemen like Forrest Lamp or Cam Robinson.
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Here we are a little over a month away from the big draft. Last year at this time the big trades were happening. Fantasy Football junkie so I love the draft. Had a few thoughts on the top 6 players from the 2016 draft ( was cool how they actually panned out ) so I thought I`d do it again this year. Went with 12 players this year. Most intriguing ?? Watson-Trubisky-Mahomes & Kizer... Once again , just like last year, the QB position has the most questions and interest. Safest picks? Garrett-Thomas-Adams & Barnett all look nfl ready. Most athletic? Peppers-Samuel-Melifonwu & Ross... (GARRETT) Just wow on how deep this draft class is.

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I believe there are no franchise QB's in this draft, possible for teams to trade into the lower 1st round to grab a QB. Defense is deep, especially in the secondary and that makes this draft a crapshoot.

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Imagine LA based season ticket holders having to spend Saturday night in Vegas before the tailgating got under way in the AM.  The horror....

....the horror.

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03/27 08:41 PM EST 4 hour(s) 36 minute(s) ago view page »

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Some notes:

I gave your mock B- grade and here's why:

1. I really, really doubt the Browns won't pick Garrett. They have been meeting, worked out privately and all that jazz. Garrett is a blue chip prospect and i think even the Browns organization can see that.

2. I hate the Kizer selection. In the past, Shanahan showed that he knows what a rookie QB needs to enter the league and be succesful. I think he is open to waiting for Cousins in 2018 or drafting one next year or in the late rounds this year. Kaaya makes sense to me.

3. Definitely can see Bolles as a Top-5, Top-10 pick. He is one of the most underrated prospects this year. That's a really good pick right there.

4. I agree with you that Howard is a Top-5, Top-10 prospect and should be picked higher than Ebron was, maybe even Verson Davis, who was the 6th overrall pick. 

5. Hooker to the Jets? Agreed. Marcus Gilchrist is at best a nickel safety, Hooker is so much better than him, and would fit right away, even though i think that a CB makes more sense, because it's a higher need, the Jets have shown how they draft and it's by BPA, for example, Leonard Williams. Like the pick.

6. I do not agree that Johnathan Allen is going to fall to #15 (Colts actual pick). He is indeed getting a load of media hype and that's usually not that great. But he's a great player and i believe he'll not be avaiable after #11.

7. No Reuben Foster nor Christian McCaffrey in the 1st round to me is just absurd. Foster won't be avaible after #17. NO WAY. And the Bucs just signed Jackson to pair with Evans, why would they pass on McCaffrey for a guy that fills no need?

8. Tarell Basham is not a 1st rounder. He'll be a rotational player, at best. He's just not good enough. He faced off against weak competition against OL. He's production is inflated by his competition, and he doesn't even get double digit sacks.

That's about it. 

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Saopaulo 0 Posts (4 )

@R3belo Thanks for reading, grading, and the thoughtful comments. 

1-2.  Let me explain the QB selections.  If you look at my mock from last year, I skewered the Rams and Eagles for giving up so much to take meh QB prospects.  I know Wentz for some reason is still regarded very highly, but the fact that they immediately hooked him up with a QB coach at the end of the season to fix his accuracy issues (my chief complaint against him) tells you a lot.  I can't think of a legit franchise QB who had major accuracy issues, even Brett Favre (I'm not counting Cam because I don't think he's a franchise QB, mainly because despite improvements, he's not an accurate enough passer).  Anyway, last season I learned the lesson that in a QB driven league, teams will overdraft non-franchise QBs, even if it costs them a ton to do it.  In the case of the Browns and 49ers, they actually have really glaring needs at the position.  The Eagles last year already had a former first overall pick on their roster and gave a ton of money to another backup.  There are no sexy prospects in this draft, so maybe these guys will slide.  For crying out loud, it wasn't that long ago that people seriously had Johnny Manziel going first overall.  I had a fourth round grade on him just on tape alone.  He was and is a bum.  In short, maybe the NFL just doesn't make any damn sense.  But if it was me making the decision in either Cleveland or SF, I'd take the best QB available at that spot and build around them.  The guys in this class are better than the guys last season, especially Trubisky over Goff, FTLOG!

6-7.  Regarding the Alabama guys.  Here we are just about a month out from the draft, and just under a month after the combine, with pro days still happening.  In other words, this is when the top front office guys and medical staff start working together on their boards bringing everything together.  I know arthritis is not a big deal for Allen specifically, but you know what?  Arthritis is an immune disorder.  It can be an indicator of an injury prone player, which to date he really hasn't been.  Hey, just as a player I think Jonathan Allen is first overall consideration.  But that's just not reality, because missing on a guy because you just flat ignored a red flag will get you fired.  Missing on a guy who everybody was full go on is excuseable.  The same goes for Foster, although I will say that I think Top 10 grades on him are absurd.  Top 10 for a linebacker is Keuchly territory, and I said in a Foster's write-up that Mayock is out of his mind for making that comparison.  We already know that he can't play heavier, because he didn't take off as a player till he dropped weight.  I know, I know, a bunch of MLB's play at 225-230 now.  But what did they run?  4.5 or less.  Rueben is not in that category of athlete.  Plus, for a linebacker a shoulder injury is not good.  For a linebacker with a concussion history it's even worse, because now you worry about him protecting the shoulder by leading more with his helmet.  So then you drafted a top 10 player who knocks himself out in the third game of the season and is in the protocol for the rest of the year since he's had multiple concussions now.  When I put it that way, do you really think NFL execs and their medical staff are going to sign off on this guy as a Top 10 player?  Ludicrous.  Then additionally, there was a report the other day that one team had him off their board entirely because of issues with maturity they uncovered on background investigation.  This is a falling player, adjust your own mock accordingly.

As for McCaffrey, I'm trying to think of the last time a sub-200 pound RB only who was not a world class sprinter was taken in round 1.  Come on, seriously?  He's a nice player who as I said in the write-up to the Saints could easily out-play his draft grade in the right system.  He's not a first round bell cow back.

We will have to agree to disagree on Basham.  I don't look at stats, by the way.  At all.  Go look at the Tennessee tape.

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03/27 08:16 PM EST 5 hour(s) 1 minute(s) ago view page »

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I think the majority of the Raiders fan base is in the Los Angeles metro area. This is only a 3 hour drive for these fans instead of 6 hours to get to Oakland. Las Vegas has a lot of people that live in their city as well that will be attending. I can almost guarantee that it will not be hard to fill the stadium. I know one thing, as a die hard Raider fan I cant stand the City of Oakland. It is dirty and our stadium in a bad part of town. I think it is a good move

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@Mark C. I was going to point out to Walter that people can actually travel and most people attending games don't live within walking distance of the stadiums. A 4 or 5 hour drive to go see a game is absolutely nothing. It's only 8 regular season home games each season after all.
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Rodrigo Muniz (Anonymous Poster)
The Jags go Fournette, looking for the same impact as Ezekiel Elliot did with the Cowboys but with an average o-line. Last chance to Bortles save his career.
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Pour_me_another (Anonymous Poster)
 You need a qb. No team is 8-8 with Kessler or Oswieler.  However, I do like the sound of mg and and a trade for jimmy g.  That is a winning combo w your revamped o line.  You need to get better so we 49ers fans can cheer for darnold next year.
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03/27 07:13 PM EST 6 hour(s) 4 minute(s) ago view page »

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JagsMockPick (Anonymous Poster)
Jags go with Leonard Fournette. After stocking up on defense in free agency with the additions of Bouye and Campbell, the Jags need an extra playmaker on offense. Fournette is the best offensive prospect in the draft and the way to go.
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Major first round changes with Titans going big on offense! Major changes round two and three. Full three round mock with write-ups. Coach and FO changes updates. Senior Bowl updates. Franchise tag updates. Free agency updates. Combine updates. Most over-rated players list. Malik McDowell rant (1.16). Post-combine pick changes. Post-free agency changes. Sidney Jones injury changes. Rate and comment!

03/27 06:28 PM EST 6 hour(s) 49 minute(s) ago view page »

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Missing a RB (Anonymous Poster)
Agree with Javier...  Pumphrey will be taken over many backs listed.  Small but quick and natural.  He be taken 9-12 in his position.
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I think the majority of the Raiders fan base is in the Los Angeles metro area. This is only a 3 hour drive for these fans instead of 6 hours to get to Oakland. Las Vegas has a lot of people that live in their city as well that will be attending. I can almost guarantee that it will not be hard to fill the stadium. I know one thing, as a die hard Raider fan I cant stand the City of Oakland. It is dirty and our stadium in a bad part of town. I think it is a good move
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jayman (Anonymous Poster)
Charley you missed on big thing....it's not the Oakland Raiders!
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In shocking news, Walt is @[email protected] dumber than hell.

Vegas is a metro area of 2.7 million people who will all be within 20 minutes of the new stadium. It's actually a solidly wealthy area and a really good football city. UNLV draws flies because they've sucked for 30 years. The Raiders will have no problem selling out every game, just like the NHL team. Unlike bull@[email protected] @[email protected] like you, the real world understands what a huge, untapped resource Vegas is to the sports landscape.


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Also, LA is a 2.5-3 hour drive from Vegas and there are still plenty of Raiders fans there. It's a great move.
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truegrit1963 0 Posts (3 )
ok mock   R. Freeman is returning to school  things will stay fluid up till draft day on this DEEP DEEP draft     #15  to # 40  are almost the same value/grade
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I think you have a lot of imagination and creativity. The Browns are not trading up with the Jets. If makes no sense for either sides. Jets have a good DL, Browns have a terrible one. "IF" and that's a big if, the Browns are trading the #1 pick i'll going to be with New England for Jimmy and probably a Patriot's 4th or 3rd pick this year, which i think it's not happpening. And the Saints just traded Brandin Cooks, why the hell would they trade Mark Ingram? It makes few sense, since he just got past 1000yds this season in 14 games starting. The rest of your mock is OK, imo. 

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have they already done the coin flip for #14 & 15?
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I think you have a lot of imagination and creativity. The Browns are not trading up with the Jets. If makes no sense for either sides. Jets have a good DL, Browns have a terrible one. "IF" and that's a big if, the Browns are trading the #1 pick i'll going to be with New England for Jimmy and probably a Patriot's 4th or 3rd pick this year, which i think it's not happpening. And the Saints just traded Brandin Cooks, why the hell would they trade Mark Ingram? It makes few sense, since he just got past 1000yds this season in 14 games starting. The rest of your mock is OK, imo. 

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  B. Cooks was in the doghouse with the coaches  and he`s gone....M. Ingram was also in the doghouse so I shopped him in the mock. I love M. Garrett but I think S. Thomas & D. Barnett are quite close IMHO   the value moneyball guy likes  would be to trade back... very possible they stay @ # 1
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Some notes:

I gave your mock B- grade and here's why:

1. I really, really doubt the Browns won't pick Garrett. They have been meeting, worked out privately and all that jazz. Garrett is a blue chip prospect and i think even the Browns organization can see that.

2. I hate the Kizer selection. In the past, Shanahan showed that he knows what a rookie QB needs to enter the league and be succesful. I think he is open to waiting for Cousins in 2018 or drafting one next year or in the late rounds this year. Kaaya makes sense to me.

3. Definitely can see Bolles as a Top-5, Top-10 pick. He is one of the most underrated prospects this year. That's a really good pick right there.

4. I agree with you that Howard is a Top-5, Top-10 prospect and should be picked higher than Ebron was, maybe even Verson Davis, who was the 6th overrall pick. 

5. Hooker to the Jets? Agreed. Marcus Gilchrist is at best a nickel safety, Hooker is so much better than him, and would fit right away, even though i think that a CB makes more sense, because it's a higher need, the Jets have shown how they draft and it's by BPA, for example, Leonard Williams. Like the pick.

6. I do not agree that Johnathan Allen is going to fall to #15 (Colts actual pick). He is indeed getting a load of media hype and that's usually not that great. But he's a great player and i believe he'll not be avaiable after #11.

7. No Reuben Foster nor Christian McCaffrey in the 1st round to me is just absurd. Foster won't be avaible after #17. NO WAY. And the Bucs just signed Jackson to pair with Evans, why would they pass on McCaffrey for a guy that fills no need?

8. Tarell Basham is not a 1st rounder. He'll be a rotational player, at best. He's just not good enough. He faced off against weak competition against OL. He's production is inflated by his competition, and he doesn't even get double digit sacks.

That's about it. 

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I think you have a lot of imagination and creativity. The Browns are not trading up with the Jets. If makes no sense for either sides. Jets have a good DL, Browns have a terrible one. "IF" and that's a big if, the Browns are trading the #1 pick i'll going to be with New England for Jimmy and probably a Patriot's 4th or 3rd pick this year, which i think it's not happpening. And the Saints just traded Brandin Cooks, why the hell would they trade Mark Ingram? It makes few sense, since he just got past 1000yds this season in 14 games starting. The rest of your mock is OK, imo. 

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@R3belo BTW, the Eagles have #14 and the Colts have #15.
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I think you have a lot of imagination and creativity. The Browns are not trading up with the Jets. If makes no sense for either sides. Jets have a good DL, Browns have a terrible one. "IF" and that's a big if, the Browns are trading the #1 pick i'll going to be with New England for Jimmy and probably a Patriot's 4th or 3rd pick this year, which i think it's not happpening. And the Saints just traded Brandin Cooks, why the hell would they trade Mark Ingram? It makes few sense, since he just got past 1000yds this season in 14 games starting. The rest of your mock is OK, imo. 
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03/27 04:37 PM EST 8 hour(s) 40 minute(s) ago view page »

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This is my first Mock Draft for this year's draft. This is what i think teams will do, not what I think they should do. If you agree or not, please rate and comment your opinion.

03/27 03:50 PM EST 9 hour(s) 27 minute(s) ago view page »

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One I think you greatly underestimate the las vegas population and fans.  Yes its known as a "tourist" city but it has had a steady increase in population and is still growing.  Finally having a pro franchise, you will find real fans going to the games.  Two, when Oakland sucked you could see how empty their stadium was so I don't want to hear any boo hooing over the Oakland area fans losing out. 
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The Tower (Anonymous Poster)

I still don't get your hatred of Terrance Williams... the guy is the #4 receiving option behind Bryant, Beasley, and Witten, and still puts up similar or better numbers to Kenny Britt and Kenny Stills, yet he's making half as much money as them.

The contract is a steal for what the Cowboys are getting. 700 yards, 5 touchdowns as season, and outstanding run-blocking. I agree that the Cowboys could have upgraded the position in the draft.. but 4.25m/season for what they are getting is a steal. Most people thought Williams was going to get 7-8/year.

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03/27 03:49 PM EST 9 hour(s) 28 minute(s) ago view page »

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Holy @#$@ are your Redskins picks terrible.

A small CB who didn't do anything the second half of the year and two defensive players with major question marks? Are you @[email protected] serious? Have you not noticed the huge emphasis on size and character for the team the last 2-3 years?

If they draft the asshats you picked for them then the team is @[email protected] done. Thankfully you're clueless and there's no way they make all 3 of those mistakes.


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ifthethunderdontgetya 0 Posts (14 )

@Real Skins Fan 

Hey Joe

That's rude

Take a sad mock

And make it better...

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03/27 03:33 PM EST 9 hour(s) 44 minute(s) ago view page »

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*MARCH UPDATE* WITH TRADES ** RD 4 NOW ADDED ** RD2,3, & 4 ORDER IS RANDOM for trades that usually happen. Used draft-site`s approach as a general guide. Really like their ranking system as it uses a hi-low rubric to rank each player. Took several ranking sites and averaged out player rankings. Used my own rankings for players I feel were ranked much too low. Combine results update. F/A updates with a few players still looking for a new home. Will update as they sign with new teams. Will see teams reach for QB & OT. No big trades announced yet.

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The greater Las Vegas metro area has over 2 million in population not to mention all the die hard raiders fans who live in the greater Southern California region who will make the trip to Vegas as many have to Oakland. The Raiders are a national brand not a regional team. Fans will follow this team everywhere, even if Musk were to build a stadium on Mars
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no way the Niners go D-line for a third year in a row. 
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Walter is correct. this was a short term money grab and an attempt to cater to the casual fan in the hopes that they sell tickets like it's a Vegas show. The local population is a jaded, cynical lot who are all transplants from all over. If the team tanks you will have less people at a Raider game than at those UNLV games. This is the equivalent of moving the Jets to London or the Broncos to Mexico City. Ridiculous. Godell leaving cannot come fast enough
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03/27 02:47 PM EST 10 hour(s) 30 minute(s) ago view page »

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Holy @#$@ are your Redskins picks terrible.

A small CB who didn't do anything the second half of the year and two defensive players with major question marks? Are you @[email protected] serious? Have you not noticed the huge emphasis on size and character for the team the last 2-3 years?

If they draft the asshats you picked for them then the team is @[email protected] done. Thankfully you're clueless and there's no way they make all 3 of those mistakes.

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Major first round changes with Titans going big on offense! Major changes round two and three. All of round three (minus compensation picks) with write-ups. Coach and FO changes updates. Senior Bowl updates. Franchise tag updates. Free agency updates. Combine updates. Most over-rated players list. Malik McDowell rant (1.16). Post-combine pick changes. Post-free agency changes. Sidney Jones injury changes. Rate and comment!

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In shocking news, Walt is @[email protected] dumber than hell.

Vegas is a metro area of 2.7 million people who will all be within 20 minutes of the new stadium. It's actually a solidly wealthy area and a really good football city. UNLV draws flies because they've sucked for 30 years. The Raiders will have no problem selling out every game, just like the NHL team. Unlike bull@[email protected] @[email protected] like you, the real world understands what a huge, untapped resource Vegas is to the sports landscape.

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This is it: I'm starting my OFFICIAL mock draft. This is my simulation, my big daddy draft, the kind of stuff you'd enter into a contest. Every pick in this mock will be made from the thought of myself being the GM. I will update this one periodically, as new info comes out, and aim to get this up to five rounds by the time April 27 rolls on. As of right now, this is just Update 0, so I only have 10 picks to get things started- stay posted and please rate!

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This is my first Mock Draft for this year's draft. This is what i think teams will do, not what I think they should do. If you agree or not, please rate and comment your opinion.

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DET -2

TOR -8

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MEM -6.5

UTA -7

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No way Tabor goes in the first round, terrible combine. Tak McKinnley (who is crazily under-drafted in this mock) is 1st round talent the cowboys may take, not Teez 
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Major first round changes with Titans going big on offense! Major changes round two and three. All of round three (minus compensation picks) with write-ups. Coach and FO changes updates. Senior Bowl updates. Franchise tag updates. Free agency updates. Combine updates. Most over-rated players list. Malik McDowell rant (1.16). Post-combine pick changes. Post-free agency changes. Sidney Jones injury changes. Rate and comment!

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tfizzle 28 Posts (19 )
I know we are counting on-field performances here but former WR Sam Hurd is pretty legendary for his off-field performances.  Involved in significant drug trafficking operations (we're talking possible $millions).  He was reportedly working directly with Mexican cartels.

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@Ben McArdle Hurd could've made this list as the "Special Teamer"
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My 2017 Mock Draft - Trade Between SF 49er's & New Orleans Saints. SF gets #11 #32 #42 Saints get #2 pick

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Major first round changes with Titans going big on offense! Major changes round two and three. All of round three (minus compensation picks) with write-ups. Coach and FO changes updates. Senior Bowl updates. Franchise tag updates. Free agency updates. Combine updates. Most over-rated players list. Malik McDowell rant (1.16). Post-combine pick changes. Post-free agency changes. Sidney Jones injury changes. Rate and comment!

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chuckster 0 Posts (1306 )
NHL results:  Sure am glad that I further reduced my hockey wagers a few days ago.  The Penguins (IMO) have given up the fight for top team this year.  Their effort (At Home) last night was embarrassing.   I go 0-2 in par play and thankfully between reduced play AND hedges,  the hit wasn't  to bad. Congrats to winners and back later with some NHL.
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Doubling-down on that idiotic Terrance Williams signing grade for Dallas, eh? Remember how completely, utterly, ridiculously wrong you were about the team drafting Travis Frederick, and how I kept explaining it to you, and yet you took a good two years to stop doubling down on your criticism? Yeah, you didn't learn your lesson, clearly.

By the way, Dallas has one of the youngest core rosters in the NFL, and yet that added up to the best record in the NFC last year. I'll take that downward spiral any time, especially when the biggest issue is a bunch of defections of low-tier players from one of the team's "weaknesses" (if the unit was such a weakness, what's the loss there, especially when the team retained its two best DBs?).

FYI, PFF rated the Dallas secondary as the best unit in the NFL last year. Given the dearth of a pass rush on the team and lack of talent many of the DBs had, it's pretty clear that was a result produced by coaching and scheme. Well, the coaching and scheme will still be there, and two of the core DBs (Jones and Brown) are near certain to be significantly better next year. You might want to put a mask on in preparation for the egg that's going to be hitting your face.
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Glad  to see madturk back on site,  I was beginning to think that there were only Trolls/Haters and  Non - Players  left. Yesterdays NHL results: I win a three team par...thank you Columbus, Caps and  Edmonton.  The Caps and Oilers wins were most gratifying because I had  - 1.5 PL on them last night. I do lose one start up par play.  Good plus coin result and that's what it's all about for me.  For today NHL: Start up par with Pitt -210,  two open.  Another start up par (for less) with NYR/LAK Under 5.5 -145,  two open.  Congrats to winners and GL today.

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@madturk:  Thanks for the post bud and yea,  I agree 100 percent on your determination to play other sports besides NFL.  I to am primarily a NFL wagerer,  been fighting the good fight there for over 35 years.  I haven't made a ton of coin, but can honestly say I have made a profit 30 of those 35 years at the end of the season.  This past season was a bit strange with just about a statistical "push" after the Super Bowl.  As far as my teaser play in CBB and  NBA,  it is really a defense measure for me,  because of lack of time and interest in basketball.  My coin play is about one quarter of my NFL par play and three team NFL 10 point teaser plays.  Lot more to talk about as we approach  the MLB season.  GL to you Sir and  hope to be seeing you in baseball season.
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Bills Mock Draft:

1. O.J. Howard, TE, Alabama: It would be an ideal situation if Howard were on the board at pick #10, because Tyrod needs weapons and Howard is a generational TE prospect. In my opinion, I would go as far as to say he has a Hall of Fame-level ceiling and would be a no-brainer if still available. 

2. Zay Jones, WR, ECU: Not many people realize this, but the Bills hired ECU's wide receivers coach to the same position. That makes this pick pretty obvious if the talented Jones is still available. He would be a great #2 opposite Watkins.

3. Desmond King, CB/S, Iowa: King's production and versatility would be perfect for the Bills, considering their needs at cornerback and safety. They can play him at either spot and he should be a starting-caliber player in the league.

5. Rasul Douglas, CB, West Virginia: Yes, another cornerback. They are very weak at the position right now, which is bad news in a division with Tom Brady. Douglas, like King, was an extremely productive player at WVU who has starting potential and great size as well. He would fit best on the outside. 

5. Dalvin Tomlinson, DT, Alabama: Tomlinson is a tough run defender, and we need depth on the interior. He's also smart and a hard worker. I think he could be better than both Alabama DTs taken in last year's draft (Jarran Reed and A'Shawn Robinson) and could possibly take over for the aging Kyle Williams in the future. 

6. Brad Seaton, OT, Villanova: They need more competition at right tackle, and Seaton would provide depth at the very least. He has tremendous size at 6'8, 310 lbs and solid athleticism. He is a great sleeper who I think has Pro Bowl potential if he develops, and I think he could actually be an upgrade over the anemic Jordan Mills. He could end up starting at some point this year. 


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@billsfan1234 I do agree that Howard is a HOF talent but I don't see him as a good fit for the Bills at this time. They still have Clay, a talented TE, and Taylor does not show a desire to throw the ball down the seam into tight coverage. The Bills effectively have nothing at WR, especially if you consider Watkins is likely out 4-6 games. So I think Williams is a better pick especially considering that they would have to move up to get Howard. They done that a few times in recent history with less than spectacular results. Plus there are other TE's in this draft that can help them. None like Howard of course but you don't build a franchise off a TE. 
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Great mock. You make a solid argument for every pick and the insight is grade A as usual.

My one beef: I don't like Mike Williams at #5. I don't like the value or the team match.

Personally, I don't see how anybody could digest game tape of Williams and John Ross then say that they would rather have Williams, even with Ross' injury history.

Ross is the 2nd-best offensive prospect in this draft, IMO. (O.J. Howard #1) When healthy, Ross is scary good. The ease in which Ross gets separation is comical. He's a special talent. I'm not overly impressed with Williams...inexperienced, sloppy route runner...iffy hands...looks almost lethargic in his release and cuts...if I'm looking for a big guy that can win some jump balls, I'd rather just take Howard or wait until day 2 and grab a Josh Reynolds or Noah Brown than burn the #5 pick on Williams. Better value, IMO.

I know that there's almost zero chance that the Titans will take a 5-11 WR with an extensive injury history at #5, but I would seriously consider it if I was Jon Robinson because Ross won't be there at #18. The threat of Ross' speed would mean much fewer stacked boxes for Murray & Henry. Tennessee's running game would instantly go from very good to flat-out lethal, while Mariota would finally have the explosive playmaker needed to take his game to the next level. 

If I'm Jon Robinson, I'm looking to work up and down the board just as during the '16 draft. I'd give the Chargers a ring and see if they would be interested in giving up their 3rd-rounder to leapfrog the Jets to secure Malik Hooker at #5. (Hooker is perfectly suited for the Earl Thomas role in Gus Bradley's scheme, and taking Ross at #7 instead of #5 seems a bit more palatable.) Then I would wait and see if a top-shelf defender like Lattimore or Allen begins to slip to the 10 to 14 range. If so, I'd try to move up from #18 to grab them. If not, I sit tight at #18 where guys like Reuben Foster, Derek Barnett, Marlon Humphrey and David Njoku could still be hanging around.    


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@Mr. Bitter 

Thank you for both checking out the mock, and for the criticism Bitter, much appreciated as always!

I agree with you on Mike Williams, I personally have both John Ross and Corey Davis over him, but as far as the Titans drafting him... they have been looking for a WR similar to Andre Johnson since last year's draft- even going so far as to sign him afterwards. Aside from Tre McBride, they don't really have a true burner on the team, and common sense would suggest that Ross would be the ideal pick... but... it seems like they want to establish a more physical identity. I think Mike Williams gives a bit more on run-blocking than the other two WR's, and that is Tennessee's strength. Williams is also still growing into his frame so maybe in a few years, he will hit up to around 232-235, and if Williams can get to even half of that Andre Johnson potential, then it's a great pick... personally, I think Isaiah Ford is the best fit for them at this time, and in this mock I would go with Derek Barnett, Malik Hooker or Marshon Lattimore, as they all are great scheme fits for the Titans... but I know they have shown a great deal of interest in Williams. I'm going to bite for now... a trade-back could be in the works though, but not too far, maybe to 11 or 12 and they might be able to land him still.

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As a Colts fan, the offensive line as a whole is better than any position group on defense. I'd much rather they grab a corner, DL, or edge over reach on a relatively weak OL class. Solid mock though!

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Major first round changes with Titans going big on offense! Major changes round two and three. Twenty picks into round three with write-ups. Coach and FO changes updates. Senior Bowl updates. Franchise tag updates. Free agency updates. Combine updates. Most over-rated players list. Malik McDowell rant (1.16). Post-combine pick changes. Post-free agency changes. Sidney Jones injury changes. Rate and comment!

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marshmelloryan 0 Posts (5 )
Some crazy picks (Like Mahomes at 13) but a overall pretty insightful mock good job
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I believe your bias against the Rams Walter, shows threw on your assessment of the Andrew Whitworth signing.

The Rams desperately needed oline help. And not only signed highest graded left tackle in free agency. ... but all of the NFL the last 3 years, despite his age....and only signed him to a 2 year contract.... 1 year guaranteed. Plus he is a great team leader....

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This guy is not a first round CB, not in this draft. Watch his tape, he gets fooled on double moves [so much for instincts] too often, and cannot match up at all with bigger WRs who are all over the NFL.

And lastly, who uses a first round draft pick and starting cornerback to return kicks and punts? That is just nuts.

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do even watch the steelers or research them at all!?!  a DE in the 2nd because Tuitt is to be a free agent?!?  do you really think there is anyway they'd let one of the best young D lineman go, especially when there are reports they might carry over 7 mil in cap space!  then no secondary help anywhere in the draft!  you did see the pats game, right!?! not to mention they barely tendered anything to one starting CB and Gay looked like a turnstile on black Friday in coverage against the Pats!

their needs in no specific order....

1. edge rusher

2. WR to go with Brown

3. CB... once again Pats game, need to be able to play press coverage.

4. ILB with speed

5. CB or Safety..... uh pats game


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@Gaunts Ghost IKR. This man has never, I repeat never, watched the Steelers play before
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Charlie, this draft for the Lions is an absolute "debacle", if I can borrow a phrase from Walt.

No impact pass rusher from the edge, no Linebacker, no RB, and no WR.

The CB you chose is too small and light to stand up in the NFL, and is not a first round talent. Adams DT is an off and on talent who is at least a round above his true value. Nicholson S is an incredibly soft and unmotivated player who happens to be athletic. A sixth round flyer at best. And Roberts TE is a nice player, but would be third on the Lions depth chart at TE. Nor is he a long term option there.


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@NorthLeft12 

Yeah, Charlie doesn't seem to have sense for what the Lions need and is stuck on giving the Lions a slot corner for some reason. Nevin Lawson (5-10/191) is ideally a slot corner, so if the Lions were to target a CB at #21, it would be an outside corner with the size to combat all the big NFC North WRs. Think Quincy Wilson or Kevin King.

Lawson struggles with size, and according to Charlie, Adoree Jackson "can struggle with size and defenders making receptions over him". That said, let's look at the projected starting outside WRs in the NFC North: 

CHI: Kevin White (6-3/217) and Cameron Meredith (6-3/200)

GB: Jordy Nelson (6-3/217) and Davante Adams (6-1/215)

MIN: Adam Thielen (6-2/195) and Laquan Treadwell (6-2/221)

Try again, Charlie.

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I really like Everett for the Lions, but only if they can snag him with the #85 pick. He could be the player they wanted when they wasted the #10 pick in 2014 on Eric Ebron.

I agree that he will most likely go before the Lions have a shot at him, but due to his scheme limitations he will likely drop to the third round, but go in the first ten picks.

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Charlie, this draft for the Lions is an absolute "debacle", if I can borrow a phrase from Walt.

No impact pass rusher from the edge, no Linebacker, no RB, and no WR.

The CB you chose is too small and light to stand up in the NFL, and is not a first round talent. Adams DT is an off and on talent who is at least a round above his true value. Nicholson S is an incredibly soft and unmotivated player who happens to be athletic. A sixth round flyer at best. And Roberts TE is a nice player, but would be third on the Lions depth chart at TE. Nor is he a long term option there.

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